黑月狂响曲
发表于 2005-10-29 22:38:00
迷茫中。。。。。。
Dampire666
发表于 2005-10-30 19:40:00
<P>既然是无限的话</P><P>那么不就成废图了吗?</P>
boter
发表于 2005-10-30 20:08:00
<P>我觉得那图还有疑问....上次跟bug7139说过.....就是用无限开过来....左边与右边的开图最上面不是平行的问题...</P><P>我还没去实地试验....所以我也不敢确定那是否是用犯规得来的开图...........</P><P>不知bug7139是否已经清楚答案了?</P><P>以上</P>
Dracula_hl
发表于 2005-10-31 13:44:00
还是请P来解释一下吧。。。。
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Dracula_hl
发表于 2005-10-31 13:49:00
<DIV class=quote><B>以下是引用<I>boter</I>在2005-10-30 20:08:00的发言:</B>
<P>我觉得那图还有疑问....上次跟bug7139说过.....就是用无限开过来....左边与右边的开图最上面不是平行的问题...</P>
<P>我还没去实地试验....所以我也不敢确定那是否是用犯规得来的开图...........</P>
<P>不知bug7139是否已经清楚答案了?</P>
<P>以上</P></DIV>
<P>所谓不平行也可以刻意制造的啊。。。。</P>
PaleDim
发表于 2005-11-2 07:04:00
<P>Ok.Sorry i have not been around to explain the 419.9%.I hope someone translates this so you can all read it as the online translator is not good.</P><P>From what i read on this thread you guys have most of it figured out.Yes it does use the S4R tech.It does require a LOT of other techniques though.So its not very easy.
First off you need to use (least we had to on the us version)the alternate way to make death tech (shifting map without death).Then you need to use S4R to make the map move.From here you can shift the map infinite with S4R.The problems lie in trying to get outside the towers to get the rooms outside and then get back into the towers to do the S4R again.It takes many different techniques to get out and back in the towers.You will need to use "Shift keep" tech, "big shift line" tech, along with other small tricks.Once you S4R to the far right of the map you will start to open rooms on the left side. You cannot see your position on the map so you need to refer to a map to count where you are.You cannot see the rooms you open till you use library card so you need to watch your room counts closely.You dont need "death jump" to get the ceiling rooms as you can stand on the statue at the top of the towers and jump+DHR to get them.You will need to do this tech at the 1st and 3rd towers to open all the possible rooms.</P><P>The problem with this tech is that it is infinite.When you go from the right side of the map to the left side (flip the map we call it) you will notice Your positionon the map moves DOWN also. so technically you could do it for infinite and fill up the whole map but we put a restriction to the technique.We have voted and decided that we will allow one complete pass across the map from starting spot to starting spot and no further.This allows us to open up a lot of rooms but still keep it from being infinite.Normally we dont allow any infinite technique but this techniqe is different.Its not easy to do the whole process and takes a lot of time.Its not like "sink tech" where its very easy to get rooms.</P><P>There are movies for this tech on my site.Just look in the movies section and go down to the bottom where you will find them.If you need more help just ask and i will try to explain as best as i can.</P><P>Good luck my friends</P>
Dracula_hl
发表于 2005-11-2 11:18:00
哪位来翻译一下啊?????????????/
cativan
发表于 2005-11-2 13:04:00
<P>paladim的意思就是说承认乐419.9%市用S4R来实现的,</P><P>无限向右最后会从左边版面穿透········</P>
boter
发表于 2005-11-2 14:45:00
不过美版想实现S4R没法与日版那么容易...............
tazf0832
发表于 2005-11-2 19:24:00
哦?看来美版搞出城是很痛苦的啊